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ADJOURNED.MEETING.OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF COSTA MESA
December 8, 1977
The City Council of the City of Costa Mesa met in
adjourned regular session on December 8, 1977, at
7:30 p.m., in the Council Chambers -of City Hall,
77 Fair Drive, Costa Mesa, California, said meeting
having.been duly and regularly ordered adjourned
from the regular meeting of December 5, 1977, and a
copy of the Notice of Adjournment having been posted
as required by law.
Roll Call Council Members Present: Hertzog, Hammett, Raciti,
Smallwood, McFarland
Council Members Absent: None
Officials Present: City Manager, City Attorney,
Director of Planning,*City
Clerk
Initiative The Mayor announced the purpose of this meeting to
Measure bring together the parties involved in the Initiative
Measure to discuss publicly, possible solutions to the
issue. The impetus for this meeting was brought about
as a result of recent discussions -between the devel-
opers, opponents of the Measure, and Mike McLaughlin,
a strong advocate of the Measure. During these dis-
cussions, it was felt that a.mutually acceptable
compromise might be reached.which could then lead to
a change in the Council's position. The City Attorney
explained further.some of the events leading up to the
Initiative being placed on the ballot, and the subse-
quent law suit which was brought against the City by
the developer.. As it now stands, the basic issue is,
in the opinion of the City Attorney, is R1 the proper
zoning for the 1and'in question? The City Attorney
presented options for consideration by the Council in
deliberating any possible change in their position on
this matter. The first option presented was to let
the prior decision stand, that is, the Initiative will
go on the ballot unless the Court orders it off. In
the second option, the Council lets the prior decision
stand but with qualifications; that is, the Council
does not take action alone. This solution requires
the cooperation of the proponents and opponents of the
Initiative as follows: the Council would authorize
the City Attorney to enter into a Stipul'a'tion with all
of the necessary parties to'the present suit, that in
effect shows that'the.underlying controversy or dis-
pute as to the basic problem has been resolved among
themselves, that the proponents and opponents agree
that R1 is not the only proper zoning for the land
involved. By filing such.Stipulation or agreement
with the Court, this would then allow the Court to
render judgment ordering the City to take the Initia-
tive off the ballot. But because of the Initiative
machinery, the City Attorney feels this may be diffi-
cult to do. However, the City Attorney did suggest
that an additional Stipulation would make this option
more sound.�In the additional Stipulation, all
parties would. agree that the Initiative Ordinance is
invalid on one or'more of the grounds that were used to
attack it. This would then submit -the whole matter to
the Court on an agree& basis and should allow a judg-
ment'to take the matter off the ballot and dismiss the
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suit without trial. As a third option, the Council
could change its prior decision and rule that the
.Initiative is invalid because of .the testimony
received from the parties tonight. In effect, if
the Council, as a result of the testimony, finds
that the underlying problem has been resolved, then
the Council alone takes action to remove the Initi-
ative from the ballot. In this option, the Council
would also make a finding that the Initiative is
invalid; this would then avoid the trial on the
present suit because the case would become moot.
In the fourth and final option presented by the City
Attorney, the Council would change their prior deci-
sion and rule the Initiative invalid for one of
several reasons despite the testimony or findings
tonight. This option would rely on a finding by the
Court that rezoning by Initiative should not apply
to so small a geographical area as the subject prop-
erty. Harry Rinker and George Argyros of the Arne1
Development Company expressed their position in
regard to arriving at a solution to the matter.
During the recent discussions, the developer indi-
cated a willingness to consider an alternate zone
for the property which would be mutually acceptable
to all concerned, as well as to include certain
Development Standards. Mr. Rinker indicated that
the developer would propose to build only the R1
and 363 units of the R3 at this time, deleting 176
units of the R3 - being that portion of the higher
density adjacent to Bear Street. This portion would
be withheld from the development until such time as
the City Council had an opportunity to hear and con-
sider alternate zoning. The alternate zoning would
be proposed only for an office/professional/financial
park. Mr. Rinker described the following Development
Standards which the developer would be willing to
attach to the project: (1) substantial setbacks from
the west property line would be a minimum standard to
assure that there would not be buildings in view of
the line of sight; (2) that a landscaped berm would
be included along the westerly boundary to prevent
any view of the buildings; (3) a minimum height
standard would be agreed to, stipulating one-story
structures for the first 85 feet, two-story struc-
tures for the next 115 feet, a height limitation of
35 to 50 feet for the next 200 feet, and a height
limitation of 60 feet for the balance of the prop-
erty; and (4) that the westerly portion of the property
would be restricted from commercialuse or zoning.
Henry Roberts, 2761 East Diana Place, Anaheim, con-
firmed the suggestions made in the recent discussions,
expressed agreement to the Development Standards be-
ing proposed, and stated that although he would prefer
commercial development of his property, he is willing
to go along with whatever the Council feels is appro-
priate. Henry Segerstrom, also concerned with the
development of'a portion of property within the Ini-
tiative boundaries, spoke in support of any efforts
made to resolve this issue. Mike McLaughlin, 925
Crocus Circle, Costa Mesa, speaking in his own behalf,
expressed the opinion that the validity of the Initia-
tive Measure is one that should be decided by the
Court. He further expressed the belief that Council
took the right action in placing this matter on the
ballot and stated that he could not support any
action which would remove it. John.Paradis, Presi-
dent of the North Costa Mesa Homeowners Association,
indicated that he had made contact with the officers
of the Association and that the concensus of opinion
was strongly in opposition to the Council taking any
action to remove the Initiative from the ballot.
He personally expressed.support of the concept of
having Development Standards on the project but
felt that the problem, in this regard, would be
one of enforcement. Don Bull, 397 Princeton
Drive, Costa Mesa, expressed his opinion that even
if the Homeowners Association agreed to everything
proposed, this would not be sufficient reason to
remove the Initiative from the ballot because the
Homeowners Association does not represent all of
the signers to the petition. As an alternative
consideration, Mr. Bull suggested that if the
developers and.homeowners.co.uld reach some agree-
ment -on the Development Standards, they could then
promote a negative vote on the Initiative. Douglas
Toohey, a resident of Mesa Del Mar, expressed his
opinion that the Council has not represented the
people in this matter, has shown indifference to
their concerns, and.is now attempting to destroy
their efforts to express their feelings through the
ballot. Mr. Toohey further spoke in opposition to
the purpose of this meeting tonight. Bill Bandarak,
2448 Andover Place, Costa Mesa, President of the
College Park Homeowners Association- speaking in his
own behalf, expressed the opinion that the citizens
involved in bringing about this Measure might feel
betrayed if the Council were to take action to re-
move it from the ballot or bring about a compromise.
Jean Robins, 1807 Tahiti Drive, Costa Mesa, sup-
ported the Measure going to the ballot. George
Argyros spoke again to clarify that the intent of
the developer is not to request a zone change but
to develop the property as it has been approved but
also to indicate their willingness to compromise by
modification of the plan. Leonard Hampel of Rutan
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and Tucker, attorneys for Arnel Development Company,
stated that regardless of the number of signatures
on the petition or the amount of work that has been
involved, this.will not make any difference to the
validity of the Initiative. Mr. Hampel feels the
City Council should do the right thing in consider-
ing the whole issue. Sally Rout, 1070 Tulare Drive,
Costa Mesa, spoke in support of leaving the Initia-
tive as it now stands.
Recess The Mayor declared a recess at 9:05 p.m., and the
meeting reconvened. at 9:15 p.m.
After recess, the Mayor kept the public hearing open
for questions from the Council.
Councilman McFarland stated that information had been
related to him on two occasions that. Mike McLaughlin
had asked the Arnel Development"Company for money to
cover attorney's expenses. Councilman McFarland
asked Mr. McLaughlin to comment on these statements.
Mr. McLaughlin recounted the fact .that he had been
named, along with others, in a suit brought by the
Arnel Company arising out of the Initiative process.
In this suit, certain statements were made against
Mr. McLaughlin so as to cause him to filea counter-
suit against the Arnel Company. Mr. McLaughlin
related that when'the prospect of settlement came,
up, he made the statement that it was going to cost
them some money. Mr. McLaughlin chose not to
elaborate further on this matter as the suit in
question.may still yet be.settled. Vice Mayor
Hammett asked questions relating.to the number of
signatures required for the Initiative Petition and
whether or not signatures could be withdrawn at this
time, and if they could, would the petition still be
valid if sufficient signatures were withdrawn so as
to make the total count fall below that required by
the law. The City Attorney responded that accord-
ing to strict interpretation of the law, signatures
cannot be withdrawn after the petition is filed
with the City Clerk. Councilwoman Smallwood asked
why the Arnel Development Company dismissed their
suit against the North Costa Mesa Homeowners Asso-
ciation, and if this was done because there was
some reason to believe that the homeowners may be
amenable to removing the Initiative from the ballot.
Mr. Hampel responded that there was no such tie be-
tween the dismissal and any move to drop the Tnitia-
tive from the ballot. He further stated that the
suit was dismissed because it sought, among other
things, an Injunction from circulating the petition,
and at that point the circulation was already com-
pleted and the matter irrelevant. During the discus-
sion which followed, several comments were made that
one of the main reasons for calling this meeting i.e.
that the parties involved were amenable to a compro-
mise, did not appear to be materializing or even
desired by certain of those present. Mayor Hertzog
responded to Mr. Toohey's comments earlier in the
meeting and stated that he was wrong in his allega-
tion that the Council has acted without concern for
the community. Mayor Hertzog said that -a difference
of opinion should not be construed as a lack of con-
cern, and that there has never been a lack of concern
on the part of the Council with regard to what was
going on in the community. Also, the Council did not
come here tonight for any preconceived notions of
what decisions would be made, but rather to seek in-
put from all parties concerned and hopefully come up
with a solution acceptable to everyone. After fur-
ther discussion, the Mayor closed the public hearing.
Councilman McParland discussed the options presented
by the City Attorney earlier in the meeting and ex-
pressed his opinion that nothing had been presented
tonight that would indicate any change in the Coun-
cil's position. Councilman Raciti also expressed
the opinion that the matter should go forward to the
ballot, but this should not prevent further discus-
sions between the developers and homeowners which
might result in some acceptable agreement and bring
about a defeat of the Measure. Vice Mayor Hammett
stated that he would still like to see a solution
reached but agreed that the.matter should go forward,
and made a motion, seconded by Councilman McParland,
and carried, that no action be taken at this time.
Adjournment The Mayor adjourned the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
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