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ADJOURNED SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF COSTA 14ESA
JANUARY 8, 1992
The City Council of the City of Costa Mesa, California,
met in adjourned special session January 8, 1992, at
7:45 p.m., in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 77 Fair.
Drive, Costa Mesa., The meeting was duly and regularly
ordered adjourned from the regular meeting of December.
16, 1991. The meeting was called to order by the Mayor.,
followed by the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
ROLL CALL Council Members Present: Mayor. Mary Hornbuckle
Vice Mayor. Sandra Genis
Council Member. Peter. Buffa
Council Member. Jay Humphrey
Council Member. Joe Erickson
Council Members Absent:
Officials Present:
None
City Manager Allan Roeder.
City Attorney Thomas Kathe
Director. of Public Services
William Morris
City Clerk Eileen Phinney
Principal Planner. Mike
Robinson
MINUTES On -motion by Council Member. Buffa, seconded by Council
December. 11, 1991 Member. Erickson, and carried 5-0, the minutes of the
adjourned special meeting of December. 11, 1991, were
approved.
ORAL
COMMUNICATIONS There were no speakers under. Oral Communications.
PUBLIC HEARING The City Clerk announced the public hearing, continued
EIR No. 1044 for from the adjourned special meeting of November. 20, 1991,
the 1990 General to consider. Environmental Impact Report (EIR) No. 1044
Plan for. the 1990 General Plan.
PUBLIC HEARING The City -Clerk also announced that this was the time"and
Transportation Sub- place set for the public hearing to consider, the Trans -
element and Land portation Subelement of the-Ccmmunity Development/
Use Element of the Management Element, and the Land Use Element of the 1990
1990 General Plan General Plan.
Associate Planner Kimberly Brandt referred to the Agenda
.Report dated December. 27, 1991, which includes addi-
tional information for. EIR No. 1044. She explained that
in response to Council's direction at the adjourned
special meeting of November. 20, 1991, staff prepared two
appendixes to the environmental document: Appendix G
summarizes all the environmental data presented in the
EIR and the public record regarding the Gisler. Avenue
bridge as to either maintaining it or deleting it fran
the City's Master. Plan of Highways; and Appendix H
analyzes the "no 19th Street bridge" scenario. The
Associate Planner, also mentioned that the potential
fiscal impact of noncohfornity.-with the County's Master.
Plan of Arterial Highways has been -included in the
aforementioned appendixes.` - -
Mayor. Hornbuckle referred to Appendix "G", Page G-4,
lines 6 and 7, stating -that it should read TeWinkle
Middle School, rather, than California Elementary School.
Council Member. Erickson suggested including a letter
from the Orange County Environmental Management Agency
in the EIR documentation since the EIR references that
which the County may or may not do about the 19th Street
and Gisler. Avenue bridges and improvements on East 19th
Street. At the request of Council Member. Erickson, the
City Manager reported on events which have transpired
between the City and the County: In November., 1991,
staff wrote a letter to the County requesting a coopera-
tive study on the issues of deleting the Gisler. Avenue/
Garfield Avenue overcrossing, the 19th Street/Banning
Street overcrossing, and widening of East 19th Street
between Newport Boulevard and Irvine Avenue, from both
the City's Master. Plan of Highways and the County's
Master. Plan of Arterial Highways. In December., 1991,
the City received a letter. from Supervisor. Thomas Riley,
indicating that he would cooperate with the City and
Supervisor. Harriett Wieder., in proceeding with a study.
Earlier in the day, the City Manager received a letter
from the Director. of Transportation for. the County of
Orange, Ken R. Smith, committing the County Environ-
rnnental Management Agency to work with the City to
perform a cooperative study on all arterial highway
crossings over. the Santa Ana River south of the I-405
Freeway.
Jeffery Childs, 1139 Aviemore Terrace, Costa Mesa,
Acting President of the Marina Highlands Homeowners
Association, opposed construction of the 19th Street
bridge for several reasons: the amount of traffic it
would generate; destruction of approximately 69 homes
in order to construct the improvements; and the nega-
tive impact on endangered animals. Mr.. Childs mentioned
that approximately 2,600 homes proposed for. the Newport
Oil property would not be built if the 19th Street
crossing were eliminated.
Joel Spencer., 1837 Bowsprite Lane, Costa Mesa, felt
there was a need for traffic circulation from Costa
Mesa's west side to Huntington Beach.
Bob Wilson, 3435 Plumeria Place, Costa Mesa, voiced his
displeasure with higher government agencies possibly
withholding transportation funding if the City were to
unilaterally delete the 19th Street bridge from its
Master. Plan of Highways.
Dick Sherrick, 3146 Country Club Drive, Costa Mesa,
referred to Appendix G (Gisler. Avenue br. idge ) and
Appendix H (19th Street bridge), asserting that these
documents contain arguments in support of the two
bridges, yet he could not find any compelling argument
that the crossings benefit the City of Costa Mesa. Mr..
Sherrick disagreed with several conclusions contained in
the Appendixes regarding noise and air. pollution. He
maintained that there are unacceptable impacts on
Harbor. Boulevard intersections in the Mesa Verde area,
on 19th Street traffic, on East 19th Street homes,
and on the entire east side. Mr.. Sherrick commented
that the accuracy of the Traffic Model, estimated to
be plus or. minus 5 to 10 percent, is too large a
discrepancy.
Referencing Table 49, Page 310 of the EIR, which indi-
cates that Level of Service (LOS) C should be the
guideline for residential areas, Mr.. Sherrick noted that
a commuter./collector designation in a residential area
with homes on both sides having two lanes and no parking
is 3,000 to 5,000 Average Daily Trips (ADTs); however.,
in Costa Mesa, daily trips are much higher on many
residential streets. He pointed out that the General
Plan indicates a plan for. 15,000 ADTs on Country Club
Dr. ive . Mr.. Sherrick was of the opinion that the General
Plan Steering Committee's Alternative 2 represents the
desires of Costa Mesa residents. In conclusion, he
suggested that the matter of constructing the Gisler.
Avenue and 19th Street bridges be placed on the ballot
so that Costa Mesa residents can make the decision.
Fred Muders, 940 West 19th Street, Costa Mesa, stated
that traffic on West 19th Street has increased consider-
ably in the past few years. He was concerned about the
the possbility of the City's taking 10 to 15 feet of_his
property if the street were to be widened.
Sid Soffer, 900 Arbor. Street, Costa Mesa, and Alan
Remington, 1164 Boise Way, Costa Mesa, opposed the 19th
Street br. idge .
Diann Osterlund, 329 East 19th Street, Costa Mesa,
representing the East Side Homeowners Association,
commented that the Gisler. Avenue and 19th Street bridges,
as well as widening of East 19th Street, would exacer-
bate existing traffic problems and ultimately lead to
the decay of established neighborhoods. She felt these
traffic projects could justify future high density
development, resulting in more traffic congestion. Ms.
Osterlund referred to the possibility of the City's
losing two million dollars per year in transportation
improvement funds if the City were to adopt a General
Plan which is not in compliance with the County's Plan,
and raised several questions: If Council supports
deletion of these projects, is it wise to adopt a
General Plan which includes the projects with the
expectation of amending the General Plan in the near.
future? Will it set a precedent for future amendments?
What is the risk that the County will, in fact, cut off
transportation funding and to what extent? What are the
future costs for these projects, and how much will the
taxpayers have to carry? Are there legal grounds to
question whether, the County has the right to withhold
transportation funds collected from tax dollars? Given
the time it has taken to adopt the General Plan, is the
transportation and land use information still valid?
Should the City delay adopting the General Plan until
these issues are addressed and resolved? Ms. Osterlund
concluded that the citizens of Costa Mesa would be best
served if the Gisler. Avenue bridge, the 19th Street
bridge, and widening of East 19th Street were deleted
from the General Plan at this time.
Mark Korando, 582 Park Drive, Costa Mesa, was concerned
about data contained in Appendix H, 19th Street Bridge
Alternative Analysis, which states that 66,000 vehicles
may shift to Victoria Street if the bridge were not
built. He asked about the development scenario used
to arrive at that conclusion. The Principal Planner
replied that information contained in Appendixes G and H
is a combination of all data already contained in the
current General Plan, the EIR, or administrative record.
He also stated that data relating to traffic volume was
.taken from the EIR discussion, which was based upon the
Austin -Foust Study, and the Study was based upon the
proposed General Plan land use intensities.
Terry Austin, Austin -Foust Associates, 2020 North Tustin
Avenue, Santa Ana, the City's traffic consultant,
responded to Mr. Korando's question: What land use
development assumption was used to determine that
approximately 66,000 vehicles would be diverted to
Victoria Street if the 19th Street bridge were not
constructed. Mr.. Austin explained that all alternatives
contained in the EIR and Appendixes assume the same land
use development in the City and in the surrounding area
as is currently proposed for. the General Plan.
Vice Mayor. Genis stated that she was not aware of any
traffic analysis in the EIR which reflects the inclusion
of the Gisler. Avenue bridge. Terry Austin reported that
there is information in the EIR and Appendixes which
addresses the Master. Plan of Arterial Highways for. the
County of Orange, and includes the Gisler. Avenue bridge.
He referred to Page 156 of the EIR. Kimberly Brandt,
Associate Planner., reported that in the Transportation
Circulation section of the EIR, Pages 152 through 157,
there is discussion of the various links that staff is
proposing to delete from the City's Master. Plan of
Highways, that being Gisler. Avenue, Wilson Street, Bluff
Road, Del Mar. Avenue/University Drive. She referred to
Figure 17 which provides the comparison between the run
of the traffic model based on the proposed General Plan
land use assumptions with the aforementioned deletions
and without those deletions. She further explained that
Page 156 contains traffic volumes with the Master. Plan
of Arterial Highway improvements, and the traffic
volumes for the proposed General Plan improvements, the
latter being shown in parantheses. Vice Mayor Genis
requested further clarification after. Mr.. Korando was
finished speaking.
Mark.Korando felt that some information was missing,
stating that the assumptions do not provide for. the
- other three alternatives. In addition, Mr.. Korando
commented that if the bridge were not built, it would
change development for surrounding cities, including the
2,500 to 2,800 homes proposed for. the Newport Oil site.
Therefore, the number of trips being assumed may not be
there because surrounding cities may not be able to
build out to their present projections.
Ronald Coulombe, 1022 Cannonade Circle, Costa Mesa,
reported on the constant traffic noise he must endure
at his home adjacent to Sunflower. Avenue. He supported
controlled development and noise abatement, and sug-
gested that developers pay for abatement of the noise
which they create.
Discussion resumed on Vice Mayor. Genis's question: Did
staff actually run the traffic model with the Gisler.
Bridge included? Associate Planner. Kimberly Brandt
referred to Appendix B, Page B IV -33 of the EIR which
lists various'Intersection Capacity Utilization (ICU)
values for. over. 100 intersections.
Sylvia Marson, 339 Walnut Street, Costa Mesa, opposed
widening of 19th Street, reducing the number of single-
family homes, and high density development.
Jeff McConville, 466 East 19th Street, Costa Mesa,
commented that the majority of Costa Mesa residents
oppose increased density which would require widening
of 19th Street, 22nd Street, Del Mar. Avenue, Baker.
Street, and others, as well as building bridges over.
the Santa Ana River. at 19th Street, Gisler. Avenue, and
Wilson Street. He urged Council to make a decision
based on the wishes of its constituents.
Janet Remington, 1164 Boise Way, Costa Mesa, asked the
question: If the County decided that it would be
possible to remove the bridges from its Master. Plan of
Arterial Highways based on the City's reducing its
densities and intensities, would an amendment be appro-
priate, or would a new General Plan be required? The
Principal Planner responded that the EIR analyzes two
other lower intensity alternatives so it is within the
Council's range of decisions to adopt those lower
intensities which are shown in the EIR; however., any-
thing below that would require further analysis via
a new EIR or at least an addendum.
Charles Robertson, 1885 Tahiti Drive, Costa Mesa,
commented that if Council is opposed to constructing
the Gisler. Avenue and 19th Street bridges, there is no
basis for. Council to support the proposed General Plan,
He asserted that the only solution would be to adopt
Alternative 2 which was proposed by the General Plan
Steering Committee.
Roy Pizarek, 1923 Whittier. Avenue, Costa Mesa, thanked
Council and staff who have been working with the citi-
zens to resolve major issues, such as traffic problems,
and deletion of the river. crossings. Mr.. Pizarek felt
that in order to delete the bridges from the Master.
Plan, densities must be lowered, and that it was impera-
tive that the City,and its citizens work with the County
to remove these river. crossings.
Gene Hutchins, 1808 Kinglet Court, Costa Mesa, referred
to the Agenda Report dated December. 27, 1991, which
included Appendixes G and H, and stated that this data
shows the extent of the densities/intensities contained
in the proposed General Plan. He contended that road
improvements contained therein are not acceptable and
the General Plan actually justifies to the County the
construction of the 19th Street bridge because of the
maximum build out being proposed. Mr.. Hutchins also
addressed traffic circulation problems which he asserted
would occur in the area of Harbor. Boulevard and Gisler.
Avenue should the proposed General Plan be adopted. He
felt that the Steering Committee alternative was an
appropriate compromise.
John Rice, 3027 Warren Lane, Costa Mesa, questioned the
need for six lanes on Baker. Street between Fairview
Road and Harbor. Boulevard, since in the 36 years he has
lived in the City, he has never, encountered traffic
congestion on Baker. Street.
Michael Dunlevie, 245 East Wilson Street, Costa Mesa,
stated that the two bridges are causing so much concern
because of the negative impacts which would be created
by excess traffic generated by the bridges.
Fred Staudigel, 3107 Warren Lane, Costa Mesa, thanked
Council for eliminating the bike lane on Baker. Street
between College Avenue and Fairview Road, but he was
concerned about the proposed widening of Baker. Street.
RECESS The Mayor declared a recess at 9:15 p.m., and the meet-
ing reconvened at 9:25 p.m.
Corrie Kates, 3087 Warren Lane, Costa Mesa, was opposed
to widening Baker. Street to six lanes because of the
increased noise impacts on residential areas. Respond-
ing to a question from Mr.. Kates, the Public Services
Director reported that the proposal for. the Master. Plan
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of Highways is for. Baker. Street to remain a secondary
road except between Harbor. Boulevard and Fairview Road
which would be six lanes. Based on this information,
Mr.. Kates recommended that Council review that portion
of the EIR and make any adjustments to reduce or down-
grade the current designation in the Master. Plan of
Highways and make that recommendation to the County.
Tony Petros, LSA Associates, One Park Plaza, Suite 500,
Irvine, addressed the Agenda Report dated December. 20,
1991, Exhibit 5, Pages 94 through 97, regarding mixed-
use development. He stated that when the General Plan
was being discussed approximately 2-1/2 years ago, it
was recognized that mixed-use commercial developments do
provide benefits to the City in a number of ways; for
instance, when uses are mixed, there is a potential for
trip savings during the peak hours because employees may
tend to shop or take in a movie after working hours. He
stated that in view of this potential, Council agreed to
include a definition for. "Effective Trip Generation",
and emphasized that this is a well-known standard in
traffic engineering. He was very disappointed in learn-
ing that "Effective Trip Generation" (Page 97) and "Trip
Budget Transfers" (Page 96) had been deleted. He urged
Council to retain these items in order to provide flexi-
bility for commercial mixed uses.
In response to Mayor. Hornbuckle's question regarding
Pages 94 through 97, the Principal Planner confirmed
that these are pages from the City's General Plan. He
reminded Council that at the adjourned special meeting
of November. 20, 1991, there was some controversy in
allowing a 25 percent increase over the allowable Floor.
Area Ratio (FAR) for low trip -generating uses; as a
result, staff advised Council that if it was a concern,
these items could be deleted without affecting the
majority of the General Plan. Tony Petros commented
that if there were a concern about allowing additional
intensity for low trip generators, it could be addressed
while still retaining the two issues he mentioned. The
City Attorney reported that he and staff made the dele-
tions in order to provide Council with an example of the
transportation element without these items; however.,
Council would have to decide whether the text should
remain or be deleted. Vice Mayor. Genis's greatest
concern was that the language contained in the document
did not correspond with the staff's Agenda Report in
that the document's language is looser and lends itself
to abuses.
Richard Vinson, 1857 Parkview Circle, Costa Mesa, refer-
enced the Summary on Page H-10 of Appendix H, 19th
Street bridge, and commented that the negative impacts
listed as a result of deleting this bridge seemed to be
guess work. He read the sixth item, "The intersection
of Placentia Avenue and Victoria Street is projected to
operate at an unacceptable level of service in POST -2010
conditions", and commented that if these bridges were
built and the high density development continued, almost
every intersection in Costa Mesa would be impacted even
more. He maintained that building the 19th Street
bridge is in conflict with the desires of the Coastal
Commission, Fish and Game, Corps of Engineers, and the
Sanitation District.
Bob Wilson, 3435 Plumeria Place, Costa Mesa, commented
that high density will destroy the City because it
requires additional water supplies, fire and police
protection, upgraded sewer systems, and wider. streets.
Barbara Gallo, 17220 Newhope Street, Apt. 224, Fountain
Valley, representing the owners and residents of 12
triplexes on the south side of Baker. Street, spoke in
opposition to Baker. Street being designated a six -lane,
primary highway with no parking, and opposed the taking
of 14 properties which would be necessary to construct
the improvement.
Michael Gannon, 3089 Loren Lane, Costa Mesa, opposed the
Baker. Street widening which would require demolition of
single-family homes. As an employee of the Newport -Mesa
Unified School District, Transportation Department, Mr..
Gannon felt that widening Baker. Street would make it
extremely difficult to pick up and drop off students at
the school bus stops located on that street. He also
commented that it is difficult enough to exit the Hale -
crest Tract at the present time, and widening Baker.
Street would aggravate the problem.
Ron Storf, 18966 Capense Street, Fountain Valley, owner
of an apartment complex on Baker. Street, opposed the
primary route designation for. Baker. Street because it
would require the taking of property and elimination of
existing parking.
Margaret Peterman, 3002 Killybrooke Lane, Costa Mesa,
opposed the widening of Baker. Street because her home
would be taken if that improvement were made. She also
stated that there is not enough traffic on Baker. Street
to warrant six lanes.
Jim Wells, 1797 Oriole Drive, Costa Mesa, President of
the Mesa Verde Homeowners Association, stated that he
could not conceive nor has he heard any benefits which
would be derived by any property owner or businessman in
the City if the proposed General Plan were adopted;
Harbor. Boulevard simply cannot handle additional traffic;
and adoption of the proposed General Plan would make it
necessary to construct the bridges. Mr.. Wells commented
that widening streets and increasing density would do
nothing but harm the small businessman.
Sid Soffer., 900 Arbor. Street, Costa Mesa, stated it was
the City's fault that citizens are disturbed by noise
frcxn local bars and traffic because it allowed residen-
tial uses adjacent to commercial areas, and did not
provide a buffer between busy streets and residences.
Dave Leighton, 1074 Redding Avenue, Costa Mesa, Presi-
dent of the North Costa Mesa Homeowners Association,
mentioned that the association represents approximately
3,000 residents in the area bordered by Baker. Street,
Sunflower. Avenue, Bear. Street, and Harbor. Boulevard.
Mr.. Leighton recalled that in past years, after, the
General Plan had been adopted, amendments were made
which allowed construction of Crystal Court on land
which had been designated medium density residential,
and other property which was zoned Rl eventually was
developed for high intensity commercial uses by means
of amending the General Plan. He asked Council to lower
densities in order to lower the traffic volume.
Mayor. Hornbuckle announced the conclusion of public
comments for this evening.
COUNCIL MEMBERS Council Member. Erickson thanked Roy Pizarek, Dick
COMMENTS Sherrick, Gene Hutchins, and all other members of the
Bridge Study Group bridge study group for their of for. is . He reported that
at their last meeting, the committee did not reach a
clear, consensus on the method of removing the - br, idges
and the East 19th Street widening from the General Plan;
however., there seemed to be a feeling of agreement that
(1) A few policies, specifically 77, 154, and 125
through 129, have not appeared in any of the
consolidated sections. She requested that these
policies, or any other policies which may have
been omitted, be addressed at the next General
Plan meeting.
(2) Was the traffic model run at any time for land
use scenarios with the existing street system?
The City Attorney replied that there is a no -
growth alternative so it would have had to be run
with existing streets, and the assumptions would
have included surrounding cities. .Vice Mayor.
Genis clarified her. question: Was a traffic
model run for all land use scenarios with the
present circulation system?
(3) Regarding the map on Page 156 of the EIR, why is
the County Master. Plan of Arterial Highways so
different from the City's base case ADT?
(4 ) mere there is a mixed use, for example, the Home
Ranch property, the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) would
apply to all development on the site including
residential development; however., there is a
definition on Page 392 of the General Plan which
indicates that "Gross Floor. Area" shall mean the
Council should remove these projects from the General
Plan, although he did realize that this must be dis-
cussed in more detail at the General Plan meetings.
Home Ranch Site
Council Member. Erickson reported that he called Malcolm
Ross, of C. J. Segerstrom and Sons, and asked him to
consider developing most of the Home Ranch site as
small -lot, single-family housing, assuming that it
would require a land use designation of Medium Density
Residential, and zoned PDR -MD (Planned Development
Residential - Medium Density).
Questions from
Council Member. Humphrey referred to Appendix H, 19th
Council Member.
Street bridge, and stated that he could not determine
Humphrey on
the origin of the numbers used in this document, speci-
Traffic Numbers
fically the table on Page H-6, traffic volumes on
Victoria Street west of Placentia Avenue, with and
without the bridge; Page H-4, Table 12, Post 2010 ICU
Summary - without the 19th Street Bridge, Intersections
12 and 15; EIR Page B IV -36, Intersection 11, Placentia
Avenue and 19th Street, portion of Table IV -5, Post -2010
Alternative 1 ICU Summary - County MPRH (Master. Plan of
Arterial Highways) Alternative; EIR Page B IV -34, 35,
36, portions of'Table IV -5; EIR Page B V-9, ICUs with
mitigation for. Intersection 11; and EIR Page B IV -22,
Gisler. Avenue and Wilson Avenue overcrossings. Associ-
ate Planner. Brandt, Traffic Consultant Kendall Elmer.,
and the Public Services Director. attempted to answer.
Council Member. Humphrey's questions to his satisfaction;
however., since the data requested was somewhat detailed,
Council Member. Humphrey agreed to having staff respond
in a memorandum.
Questions from
Vice Mayor. Genis had a number of questions and sugges-
Vice Mayor. Genis
tions for. staff:
(1) A few policies, specifically 77, 154, and 125
through 129, have not appeared in any of the
consolidated sections. She requested that these
policies, or any other policies which may have
been omitted, be addressed at the next General
Plan meeting.
(2) Was the traffic model run at any time for land
use scenarios with the existing street system?
The City Attorney replied that there is a no -
growth alternative so it would have had to be run
with existing streets, and the assumptions would
have included surrounding cities. .Vice Mayor.
Genis clarified her. question: Was a traffic
model run for all land use scenarios with the
present circulation system?
(3) Regarding the map on Page 156 of the EIR, why is
the County Master. Plan of Arterial Highways so
different from the City's base case ADT?
(4 ) mere there is a mixed use, for example, the Home
Ranch property, the Floor Area Ratio (FAR) would
apply to all development on the site including
residential development; however., there is a
definition on Page 392 of the General Plan which
indicates that "Gross Floor. Area" shall mean the
total nonresidential building area. Clarify
whether or not residential development counts
towards the gross FAR.
(5 ) In regard to densities prescribed for. some of the
mixed use areas, most notably Home Ranch, it
specifies a maximum of 15 units per acre average;
do the 15 units apply to the entire 100 acres so
it results in 1,500 dwelling units plus the .47
FAR since residential does not count, or do the
15 units per acre only apply to the portion of
the site utilized for residential use?
(6) There is a general description of some of the
uses allowed in the various land use types; what
uses specifically are intended, for. example,
Neighborhood Commercial, would that allow hotels
and restaurants?
Clarify data contained on Page 399 of the General
Plan, Commercial Center., sixth paragraph, which
specifies a five -story limit; that conflicts with
Policy. 233 which was adopted on January 17, 1988,
limiting all buildings south of the 405 Freeway
to four. stories.
In the Commercial Center., Red Lion Inn area, the
trip budget indicates that the FAR of .75 could
never be achieved with that trip budget. If that
were the case, there would be a need to establish
an FAR since this will be nonconforming anyway.
Staff should provide an FAR for. the Commercial
Center generation rate so it would be consistent
with the established trip budget.
(7) Clarify the issue involving mixed uses within a
given site. There is a specification that office
uses would not be permitted to exceed the maximum
allowable FAR in any instance. For example,
where there -is a mixture of uses and the basic
FAR is exceeded, could any of these be office
uses, or could there be a certain FAR for office
use in addition to .25 FAR for another. use. The
Vice Mayor felt that the difficulty was in the
wording, resulting in inconsistencies.
Page 388 of the General Plan addresses additional
FAR of .25 allowed in Neighborhood Commercial,
General Commercial, and Commercial Center.; how-
ever., in the text of the document, there is also
a reference to additional FAR in Light Industry
and Industrial Park areas, and this should be
clarified.
(8) If the residency hotels have a population of 110
persons per acre, is that intended to be the
density limit for. SRDs, that is, no more than 110
rooms per. acre?
(9) Page 403 of the General Plan, Development'Assump-
tions and Trip Budget, clarify whether this is a
land use element. Will there be development
specifications consistent with State planning law
and.will the type and intensity of land use be
specified, or is traffic the only issue that will
be addressed? On Page 405, the Vice Mayor ques-
tioned using the word "approximately" in reference
to a land use limit.
(10) Will certain sites on the map be reviewed at the
next General Plan meeting? The concern was the
site shown at the end of what would be 19th
Street since it is designated High Density Resi-
dential; it is in the area projected as Talbert
Park but is presently owned by a petroleum
company, and could potentially be developed High
Density Residential.
(11) Add a new policy: To the extent feasible, mini-
mize circulation improvements that will necessi-
tate taking of private property on existing
developed parcels (or instead of "existing devel-
oped parcels", use "previously subdivided lots").
ADJOURNMENT At 10:45 p.m., the Mayor adjourned the meeting to Janu-
ary 27, 1992, 6:30 p.m., at the Neighborhood Community
Center., 1845 Park Avenue, Costa Mesa.
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